So I thought for sure, well, this can't just be a biased thing because I can tell black people apart, I can't tell Asian people apart. Let's move them to Palo Alto." That's like 24 individual meals, no antibiotics, no added hormones. I'm Jordan Harbinger. Jen Harbinger: [00:26:13] Head over to for 20 percent off your entire order. That's weird. She would make facial expressions, but no one ever confused them for sisters because they categorize one as white and the other as black. Also, discrimination, finding new places to rear its ugly head. A team of neuroscientists and engineers have developed a system that can show the neural process of decision making in real time, including the mental process of flipping between options before expressing a final choice. Worksheets for the episode in the show notes, transcripts for the episode in the show notes. How do we mitigate bias? 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About Jennifer L. Eberhardt, PhD. Here, we discuss addressing racial disparities and inequities in our neighborhoods, institutions, and criminal justice system and examine how we can alleviate our own role in perpetuating these all-too-tangible consequences of bias. The right to object: Object to how we use your data. Should mediation fail to resolve the dispute, either party may request that the dispute be resolved by confidential, binding arbitration governed by the Federal Arbitration Act (“FAA”). So their brains probably don't change, even though they're still in the same profession. Skin color, no resemblance. There was no agreed-upon definition of what furtive movement was in a department at that point. Jen and I love these socks. ButcherBox delivers healthy 100% grass-fed and finished beef, free-range organic chicken, and Heritage breed pork directly to your door on a monthly basis. Visitors are those who visit the Website but do not register with us. Racial segregation leads to growing achievement gaps – but it does so entirely through differences in school poverty, according to new research from education Professor Sean Reardon, who is launching a new tool to help educators, parents and policymakers examine education trends by race and poverty level nationwide. And these were like three-year-olds. For us, it's almost interesting because it shows that stereotyping goes beyond just your beliefs and your attitudes about people. Jen Harbinger: [00:49:41] For listeners of our show, you can receive $10 off your first pair of Feetures by going to and using our code JORDAN. So the requirements are different. COMPANY’S LIABILITY TO YOU IS LIMITED. If you do not agree to any change to the Terms of Use then you must stop using the Website immediately. And now when someone's like, "Oh, my dog is afraid of black people." It's certainly not the metric that people have in mind when they're pushing for bias training. They've repurposed their visual cortex. Eberhardt's academic study of race began more than two decades ago during graduate school at Harvard, where she initially focused on cognitive psychology, a discipline pertaining to how people acquire, process and store information. And we've seen brain data from — is it London cabbies when they learned the knowledge of all the streets, their brains visibly changed within just a few years. Jordan Harbinger: [00:13:41] That's kind of unbelievable. A social psychologist at Stanford University, Jennifer Eberhardt investigates the consequences of the psychological association between race and crime. Being programmed to temper our curiosity with caution when encountering people, places, and things unlike ourselves in a big and strange and unexplored world may have played a part in ensuring that the legacy of “our” people continued for successive generations. We can't just know we have bias and then magically not be affected by it. It was in court that I learned that this officer had accused us of assault and battery on a police officer because when he reached in to unbuckle my seatbelt to arrest me, I touched his hand with my finger. NEITHER WE NOR ANY OTHER INDEMNIFIED PARTY IS RESPONSIBLE OR LIABLE FOR ANY INCOMPATIBILITY BETWEEN THE WEBSITE AND ANY WEBSITE, SERVICE, SOFTWARE OR HARDWARE, OR ANY DELAY OR FAILURE YOU MAY EXPERIENCE WITH ANY TRANSMISSION OR TRANSACTION RELATED TO THE WEBSITE. Because I needed an example. Right? [00:37:27] It's interesting because even though this is the case, you know, this is a pretty low hit rate one percent, right? Your support of our advertisers keeps us going. When they see Chinese faces or African-American faces or what have you, but they don't expect that people do that to them. They recommend those socks there too. 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And they will gradually change the expression on the face. So it would be great if we had those, right. [00:07:52] You know, I have another son who was in first grade, he asked me — he says, "Mommy, do you think people see black people in a different kind of way?" There may be portions of the Website that allow for the posting of reviews, comments, photographs or other content (“User-Generated Content”). And now for the conclusion of our episode with Dr. Jennifer Eberhardt. I don't know why I was thinking that." The Website is based in the United States. Again, he got that from watching how people react to one another. I guess black people don't wakeboard and camp. Jennifer Eberhardt: [01:07:34] Yeah. And they always wanted people who did something interesting. [01:12:420] A lot of folks ask me what are my favorite episodes of the show. 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They go, you know, this dog is a little bit afraid of so-and-so or. So even though the sister had blonde hair, she had the same forehead as my friend. Jordan Harbinger: [01:00:58] When people in San Francisco say, "I really care about homelessness, we really got to clean up the tenderloin." [00:34:41] So they've done studies where they will take a face — it's the same face, right? They're looking at funding, community organizations  — you know that kind of thing. Jen, tell them where to get it. Jen just gave me a five-minute spiel about how much she loves Features socks. But Eberhardt pivots forward. And when we looked at why there was that much support, what we found that the more people were sort of reminded of racial disparities in the criminal justice system. There's a video of this interview on our YouTube channel at It seems like a lot of this is survival mechanisms gone wrong, right? He worked at Ford. Yeah. All amendments to the Terms shall be forward-looking. 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That's For example, for officers to use more extreme force against black people. So it could, in some way, actually lead to a problem, especially if you're only doing this bias training in isolation, and then not even looking at how that training actually really changes outcomes, the outcomes that you care about. So they're seeing the outside of the home. And so they are quicker to respond, shoot a black person with a gun than a white person with a gun. Eberhardt turned next to a 2007 study by researchers led by Joshua Correll. Note that if in your notification you knowingly misrepresent that the material or activity is infringing, you may be liable for any damages, including any costs and attorneys’ fees, incurred by us or the alleged infringer as the result of our relying upon such misrepresentation in removing or disabling access to the material or activity as detailed in the notification. Dogs are also racist. And we find like the NYPD, for example, when they were at the height of the stop-and-frisk practices, they're in New York, they were stopping lots and lots of African-Americans and Latinos. President Marc Tessier-Lavigne, Provost Persis Drell and Medical School Dean Lloyd Minor brought the campus community up to date Thursday with news of the university’s adjustments to the continuing COVID-19 pandemic. I do ask some uncomfortable questions during this episode. I think I was three or four years old. I wouldn't have been able to tell my own son apart from those newborn kids at first. Research shows why understanding the source of discrimination matters. Jordan Harbinger: [01:14:21] If you want to hear more from Eric Schmidt and learn what role AI will take in our lives and how ideas are fostered inside a corporate beast like Google check out episode 201 of The Jordan Harbinger Show. You consent to receive communications from us electronically. Or they're afraid of strangers. Jordan Harbinger: [01:07:28] Maybe you start credentialing people who are doing bias training and make sure it passes the sniff test. And we found that when you just look at black and white people who were stopped for furtive movement, 88 percent of them were African-Americans and 12 percent were white. And we find that they evaluate the house more negatively when there's a black family standing in it. He had been profiling himself that entire time. She's decked out head to toe. No waiver of any breach of any provision of these Terms of Use shall constitute a waiver of any prior, concurrent, or subsequent breach of the same or any other provisions hereof, and no waiver shall be effective unless made in writing and signed by an authorized representative of the waiving party. They only had these pictures of the house and the family. But tell me about how bias affects real estate and homes. 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[00:29:00] But what we found with black faces is when you show white people black faces, you get that dulling of the response, even when it's not the same face that you're seeing. We went to this grocery store in a white neighborhood and he says, "I remembered being in the grocery store and a black man came in.